Types of Teachers
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    • Josh Nisley
      Aug 25, 2022
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      This story is marginally relevant. I think we could cut it. I'd like to trim the length of the video a bit anyway.
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      • Lucas Hilty
        Aug 25, 2022
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        I would support that.
      • Lucas Hilty
        Aug 25, 2022
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        It's all good, but I agree it could be better if it were tightened up a little.
      • Josh Nisley
        Aug 26, 2022
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        Cut 6:09 to 7:30.
      • Lucas Hilty
        Aug 25, 2022
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        I wish we could cut out the references to Faith Builders here.
        • Lucas Hilty
          Aug 25, 2022
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          I haven't watched everything yet, but although this is an important point I'm not sure that its handled very clearly. Remove? I guess the removal would be obvious because this is a numbered list.
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          Your students know if you care,
          and I think they know if you don't care,

          and I think they know if you don't
          care and you try to fake it.

          Their radars are pretty good with that.

          So I would encourage you to do everything

          you can to prepare to care
          for them and to be a blessing.

          All right, types of teachers.
          You can't pigeonhole everybody.

          These are a little bit caricatures,
          but I want you to think about them because

          you may fit into one of these
          and you don't think you do.

          All right, I have, and I ain't
          going to tell you which ones.

          So, um, kind of making light of some things
          that we want to avoid and then some

          of these that I hope that we
          can all grow into as we mature.

          The "Trying to Be Cool" teacher.

          It's important to them to be
          relevant to the student.

          And this is not a thing for 22-year-olds or 18-year-olds.

          Oftentimes it's 30, 35, 40,

          where we start feeling like,
          well I kinda would still like to be kinda cool.

          You're not.

          And so we're kind of relevant. Some
          problems with it, and you know what it is,

          so you dress like it was cool
          when you were cool 20 years ago.

          I'm not trying to teach you how to be
          cool, but not only are you not,

          but students are like, "This is really awkward.

          If you'd just be a man or a lady."

          Part of this is oftentimes these kind
          of teachers have short lived popularity.

          They need to be very popular for three
          weeks of school, and then something just

          clicks, and it's not that attractive
          to students, really.

          I've noticed that these kind of teachers
          can gain classroom management quickly

          because the students think they're pretty
          cool, and then after two or three weeks,

          you're pretty cool,
          doesn't help them to know when they can or

          can't talk or when they
          can or can't do anything.

          And then it's a nightmare, and they
          don't favor that teacher anymore.

          So teacher B is

          "Trying to Be Just Like a Student."

          This is different than trying to be cool.

          Remember,

          even if you're an 18-year-old teacher,
          the students probably view you more closer

          to the age of their
          parents than you realize.

          They really do.

          My band director who I loved in high
          school, he was about 28 years old.

          I was 14.

          My parents were 34, 36 years old,

          and I was pretty sure they
          were all the same age.

          Think about that.
          I added eight years to the guy's life.

          They were just all adults.

          So I know some of us think,
          I'm 28, I'm young.

          Students are looking at you thinking,
          you're 28, whoa. Know what I mean?

          You're old.
          And so I just wouldn't worry about it.

          It's tempting sometimes even for older

          adults to try to dress and act like
          students and do the things that they do.

          Remember when you were that age,
          which is such a valuable resource:

          remember what you did.

          Oftentimes they're doing things because
          the other students are doing it.

          Not really because they
          even think it's that cool.

          That's what you do.

          And so I think there's some

          destabilizing effect for them trying
          to see adults try to be like they are when

          they're being like they are, just
          to fit in, and they might just hate it.

          So my band director,

          he was 28, which in my mind, honestly,
          he was the same age as my parents.

          He showed up once,

          there was a musical performance,
          and we saw him, and it was outside,

          and he came up, and it was in the mid-
          eighties, and he had these super long

          short pants, and that's what people wore,
          and he said something about it.

          He said, "Do you like my short pants?"
          We didn't say that.

          We would of just said shorts.

          And I just was thinking,
          I can't believe he did that.

          And it wasn't immodest or anything.

          I mean, they were longer than short shorts
          or whatever, but I mean,

          he was trying to look young, and I
          just remember thinking--I loved him,

          I still do,
          I love all my teachers--

          and I just think I thought,
          this is just weird.

          Why is he doing that?
          I was really disappointed.

          It kind of took him down a few levels

          because he was really trying
          to be relevant that way.

          Anyways, my children and you don't need
          to try to guess who I'm talking about.

          I've taught in a Baptist school,
          a non-Anabaptist evangelical Baptist school.

          I've taught in Mennonite schools,

          I've taught in a Beachy school,
          I taught in a Charity school,

          and now I teach in a school
          where we have everything.

          We represent about 30 different churches,

          Mennonite denominations,
          and about seven or eight different

          Mennonite denominations
          within the 30 churches.

          So don't try to guess.
          So my children said once they had a chapel

          and a teacher got up and started talking
          about how young he was and how he was

          actually closer in age to the students
          than he was to the rest of the teachers.

          And he was very relevant with technology,
          and he said, "I'm just like ya'll.

          I have Instagram."
          So we all have Instagram, okay?

          And Facebook.
          And he went down the list of things,

          and my children came home just like
          "I just can't believe he said that."

          "Why was he trying to show us
          that he was just like a student?"

          And honestly, if he was two years older

          than them, they probably thought
          he was 22 or 23 until that.

          So if you are one of those adults that can

          be relevant just because you are,
          then that's one thing, but don't try it.

          Don't try to be just like a student.

          "Trying to Be an Important Authority."

          This is the person
          that's like, I am a professor.

          And you can tell when you meet
          them that they're the professor.

          They're smart and you're dumb.

          I mean, just simple things that they
          say in life are just "I'm smart."

          It's all with authority.

          And they tend to view teaching as

          an opportunity to be in charge
          of other people and to be important.

          And they want to appear very wise,
          but then they're like it's like a sage,

          like just this wise old person
          and that's like their thing.

          Why would you want to do that?

          It's very important that you view them as

          smart and they use big words
          to try to impress you.

          Have you ever known somebody who was
          truly intelligent, that was really smart?

          And they didn't use big words and you can

          just tell it as soon as
          they open their mouth:

          this person is really quite brilliant.

          And they don't try to use
          words or use fancy words wrong.

          Makes it worse.

          The next one tends to be a guy,

          doesn't have to be is "The Flirt."

          And I don't want to make
          light of this one.

          It's "creepy teacher" and I don't think
          you realize this, why it's happening.

          And I put this somewhere else.

          Anyways.

          This very well could be the first time,

          when a guy teaches, that women have ever
          paid him any attention in his life.

          Suddenly you're in charge and you're

          the teacher and you're speaking
          and girls are looking at you.

          In some ways you can make it humorous.

          I just don't think guys process it all.

          And I think it can lead to irreverent,
          probably at first, for sure,

          accidental behavior or
          something like that.

          We're going to actually talk
          about this more specifically.

          So I just put: don't sit with girls.

          Don't sit with girls.

          I don't like to sit with lady teachers.

          It's just weird and inappropriate anyways.

          Don't ever be in a closed room.

          Billy Graham Rule. We'll talk
          about that in a minute.

          People are watching you.

          Even if you feel like you're keeping it
          professional, when you talk to the same

          person over and over about school,
          it's awkward and it's just not right.

          And it's, I think, pretty hard to shake
          that image even if you mend your ways.

          "The Mature, Secure,
          Stable Human Being."

          Usually interesting people.

          It can take a little while of maturing
          to get to be that way because you do want

          to work through being cool,
          being like a student,

          the important authority guy,
          if you are a flirt than that.

          So at one point in my life I
          was like cooler than I am now.

          Don't laugh, okay?

          I was. All right,

          I was in my early thirties,
          and I really thought I knew how to relate

          to students and young people better
          than people that were older than me.

          And I was a music teacher and I
          dressed a little bit cool.

          Don't mock me, okay?
          I'm just saying.

          And so I noticed that sometimes I had one
          or two students, like drop my class for

          this other teacher that was about 45 years
          old, little man beard,

          kind of nerdy hair, if you know
          what geek hair is, and soft spoken.

          He's very very intelligent and he taught
          advanced math and he taught psychology.

          And I'm just thinking I'm
          the one that kind of--forgive me.

          Okay, I don't think like this.

          It was a long time ago and I just thought,
          why are they going to his class?

          I'm like cool and I'm
          more relevant than he is.

          And I thought about that for years
          and it just makes perfect sense to me.

          He's a stable guy.

          He could be most of those
          students dad's age.

          He was interesting.

          He's pretty caring.

          I remember observing a class of his,
          it was an advanced math class

          and the students were all talking, talking
          a lot, talking a lot, talking a lot.

          And he went up in front of class
          and he went there and he said,

          "Okay, we're going to start class
          now, if you can open your book."

          And it was silent.

          That's awesome.

          To me, that's more than having a class

          silent when you walk in there the whole
          time--is if they can talk and if there's

          enough respect and culture there,
          that when you start talking, it's done.

          I've striven for that actually,
          in our high school.

          So just think about that.

          It's interesting.

          It's kind of a dad.

          I think it would be a goal for us men

          to be at some point in your career,
          a big brother and work on our way when

          you're 35 or older, really to be
          the dad. And the ladies, the same thing.

          They're your little sisters.

          Even if you're in the same youth
          group and you're their teacher.

          Big sisters.
          And then if you're still teaching ladies

          and your career teacher, the mom
          figure it's a blessing to be that way.

          Okay, "I Want to Be Your Best Friend" / "Youth Counselor"

          In the 1990s and 2000s, evangelicals
          really got into this culture of youth

          pastor and youth pastors were very
          charismatic and it's still around and I

          think it's crept into our
          cultures a little bit.

          Younger people with young families,
          a lot of mentoring.

          Mentoring is good.

          It just needs to be structured
          and mentors need to have mentors.

          And so they were adults
          that were pretty cool.

          Spending inordinate amount of time probably

          with young people and I've seen
          that sometimes even in our schools.

          And so what that can cause is
          that the teacher that does this

          and the students that he's involved
          with kind of view themselves as cooler

          than everybody else and cool
          becomes a big deal.

          And it's hard to relate finally
          to that teacher's authority because

          the relationship was built
          on that and then really hard to relate

          to other teachers who are just
          normal trying to do their thing.

          My students are my friends.

          I don't tell them
          that until they graduate.

          My children are my best
          friends in the whole world.

          Even when they're like five.

          Some people say they're not their
          friends until they graduate.

          I just don't tell them that.
          But they are.

          We just love them.
          And I love my children so much.

          My biological children,
          I love them and they're my friends.

          So, yeah, our students are our friends.

          But the best friend thing,

          that's just not appropriate,
          I think, when you're their teacher.

          The "I Make Fun of Mennonites Guy."

          You've probably heard of teachers
          that are just getting a little frustrated

          with our culture so they make fun
          of Mennonites to the students.

          So I'll bring up the second point first.

          You probably shouldn't be teaching

          Mennonites because you
          don't like Mennonites.

          Right?

          That's funny.

          Why is he here?

          Second one is, I mean,
          there's a teacher and he just kept giving

          digs at the plain suit, digging at the
          plain suit, digging at our culture.

          And the crazy thing is,

          some of the youth that were in a part of
          [inarticulate] but anyways

          but I knew some of these youth,
          even some of the cooler youth that might not

          have been huge plain suit fans,
          they're kind of offended that their

          teacher was just giving
          those digs to plain suits.

          We get so whacked out comparing
          ourselves with the world.

          If you're a worldly person, it's like cool
          to wear a plain suit. It like always has been.

          That's like what famous people do.

          But we look at it and think,
          well, we have to.

          And so the whole thing, just wear the thing. Anyways.

          So we just shouldn't give digs
          at our own culture like that.

          That's a terrible thing.

          I understand other digs,
          if you're in a school and you don't like

          the curriculum for whatever reason,
          just don't do digs to our culture.

          We're here to build up a culture that I
          think is a beautiful thing that we have.

          And the last one, the outline I
          gave you is like five days old.

          Teachers edit these things
          until like an hour ago.

          My notes have more than yours.

          "The Cheerleader."

          Just be a cheerleader.

          Can you think of a blessing?

          I realized that we don't want to make
          our students all proud by blessing them.

          I'd rather bless my students.
          I just love them.

          Especially since I get to teach
          K-12 every day.

          Especially those little ones.
          Just bless them.

          Our students at Shalom wear uniform.

          So all I've got to bless them on is

          the girls, how they braid their little
          hair, the guys and their little belts,

          and their shoes, and their watches,
          and the girls and their shoes.

          And I love shoes anyways.
          Be a cheerleader.

          Tell them how much you like what they do.
          It's okay.

          I really don't think that's
          going to make them egomaniacs.

          I just think it's nice.

          Isn't it nice when somebody says something
          nice to you? It feels good to me.

          If I get a bad note from a child and I
          can't tell what the writing is and I don't

          know what the picture is
          that they drew, my day is made.

          That's it.
          It is made.

          I got something.
          A piece of candy on there.

          A poorly colored picture of a horse.

          My day is made.
          It's so nice.

          Think Barnabas the encourager.

          Can we be that way to every
          single student you have?

          Every single day?

          Even the cool, tall basketball guys.
          It feels good.

          I had one guy I told him--I love shoes.

          I like Vans.

          Childhood thing.

          Anyways and Converse.

          And I just said, "You got Vans on.
          That looks nice."

          And he told me years later,
          he said, "I felt like I was on cloud nine

          because you said that to me."
          And I really meant it.

          I really do like Vans.

          I don't like dude shoes as much, so I
          won't say that, but they're interesting.

          But you know.

          I had no idea it impacted this guy.
          He said, "I felt so good."

          That was the first day of school.

          "You found me and you met me
          and you said you like that."