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    • Josh Nisley
      Dec 6, 2022
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      Can we cut "and we'll get to that in just a second"?
      • Josh Nisley
        Dec 6, 2022
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        Not sure about all the audience pan shots. Could we eliminate a few of these? Not a big deal.
        • Josh Nisley
          Dec 6, 2022
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          Cut 4:18-5:44.
          • Josh Nisley
            Dec 6, 2022
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            The tourist example could be cut, 8:44-9:30
            • Josh Nisley
              Dec 6, 2022
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              Cut 14:19-15:06. Connect "how can we develop humility?" to "three practices."
              • Josh Nisley
                Dec 6, 2022
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                Use quotation marks and end punctuation to keep title consistent with others in the series. "I'll Just Google It."
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                We get our students asking us this
                question in multiple different ways:

                But why do I need to memorize facts when
                I can look up facts on the Internet?

                No problem.

                We have Wikipedia. We have,

                well, Google, just in general.
                We have facts available to us all

                the time.
                As I've been doing, I'm planning today

                to talk about what is going on behind
                the scenes. What is the question behind

                the question or the assumption
                behind the question?

                But I'm going to do a little bit
                of an aside and attack the question

                directly for a little bit before we
                get into intellectual character.

                So what's going on behind the scenes?

                What is the student possibly thinking when
                asking, why do I need to memorize facts?

                Well, I would say two are really
                closely related to each other.

                The first is that education
                is about information.

                I had a student who was planning to drop
                out of school and go to do online school,

                who told me, "Oh yeah,
                I'm going to do online school.

                I'll still be educated."

                Education is about facts.

                The second thing, or sorry, education
                is about information and information—

                this is the second thing—

                information is about facts.

                These are two things that students assume
                when they think that they don't need

                to learn the things we're trying to teach
                because of the availability of Google.

                Cognitive science tells us that the more
                you know, the more you can learn,

                and also, the more you know, the better
                you can process new information.

                There is information required

                in the education process, and information
                does include a lot of facts.

                But that's not the only
                thing about education.

                The third thing that students may be
                saying when they're

                trying not to learn something based
                on the fact that they can Google things is

                that they are saying, they're making this
                assumption that they can readily discern

                between facts and fiction when
                they read something online.

                And I will hasten to say
                that I obviously can.

                I always know when I'm reading fake news

                and when I'm reading something true.
                Or not.

                You will recognize that
                as the amount of information that's

                available to us gets bigger and bigger,
                it becomes harder and harder for us

                to process and to figure out what's true
                and what isn't true,

                or even more importantly, what's
                important and what's not important.

                What's the intellectual character trait

                that we need to develop in our students if
                they are going through life thinking

                that they can always tell the difference
                between what's true and what's false?

                I'm going to contend that that
                character trait is humility.

                I'll start by saying that humility is not,
                in the words of

                C.S. Lewis, "pretty women trying to think

                they're ugly and clever men
                trying to think they're fools."

                It is not denying the good
                things about ourselves.

                Intellectual humility is not falsely
                declaring ourselves to be nothing.

                If that were the case,
                then Chesterton would be right when he

                says that kind of humility
                "would produce a race of men too mentally

                modest to believe in the
                multiplication table."

                So that's not what I'm talking about

                when I say intellectual humility.

                It is not just denying
                the things we have to offer.

                Rather,
                intellectual humility is recognizing our

                dependence on God, and it's also
                treating others better than ourselves.

                Authentic humility is an attempt
                to see ourselves as we really are.

                And notice I say an attempt
                to see ourselves as we really are.

                We don't see ourselves very well.

                That's why we absolutely need to develop

                friendships in our lives with people
                who will tell us the truth.

                Faithful are the wounds of a friend
                because we don't see ourselves well.

                We need to understand that we
                are made in God's image.

                As such, we have the ability
                to seek truth and to find truth.

                But we also need to recognize
                that we're fallen.

                And as such, we are not perfect
                in our pursuit of truth.

                We have false motives.

                We have poor processing sometimes.

                All kinds of things
                go on in our pursuit of truth.

                We mess up.

                Humility recognizes that.

                Why would I want to develop humility?

                What are the benefits?

                Again, there are many.

                I've chosen three.

                The first is a growth
                of knowledge and insight.

                If I can rejoice when I'm proven wrong

                because I got to learn something,
                that's a benefit of a lack of humility.

                You know how often it's been that we say

                something and somebody says,
                "No, you're wrong."

                And we go back and forth and at the end

                we're both mad and neither of us
                has changed our point of view,

                and somebody missed out on an opportunity.
                Because one of the two was wrong,

                don't know which one at this point,

                but that person missed an opportunity
                to put their mental model, make their

                mental model better,
                more like the world actually is.

                Now we can all just in general recognize
                that we're wrong about something.

                Like, I know I'm wrong about something.

                I don't know what it is.

                So when you and I disagree about
                something, here's an opportunity for me

                to recognize, maybe, one
                of the places that I'm wrong.

                I might not be wrong here,

                but if we can talk about it,
                not in terms of a conflict,

                not in the case where one of us is
                vanquished and the other one is

                victorious, but rather that the two of us
                together are trying to figure out

                which one of us is wrong so that person
                can benefit by now being right.

                Think about how different our interactions

                would be around
                all of the things that we fight about.

                Our world would be richer and larger—
                this is the second thing—

                our world is richer and larger than
                if we are intellectually proud.

                Third benefit: Our influence
                is increased if we're humble.

                I already mentioned

                the case of evangelism, but I'll
                tell a personal story for this one.

                I told you that I grew up, or when I was

                younger, I had the reputation of always
                being right and defending my point of view

                as long as it took till
                the other person gave up.

                In 2007, I got a job offer
                to teach in Colorado.

                It was a tiny community.

                I knew one person in the community,
                but I decided I would do it.

                And before I left, I heard some
                bad things about this community.

                I heard there are a bunch
                of legalists there.

                And I was young and vigorous, and I said,
                "Okay, well,

                the way you change a legalistic
                community is you change their children."

                And so I'm going to go in,

                and I'm going to change this
                community by changing their children.

                You have enough experience
                to know how well this went.

                So I got there, and I
                started teaching school,

                and one of the school board
                members was also a minister.

                He was my age.

                I was 23, I think, at the time.

                So he was young,
                and he really felt the responsibility of

                his task, of his role there as
                minister and as school board member.

                And so I had this community pegged
                as a group of legalists, right?

                So one day, this young minister
                got up, and he gave a sermon.

                And I was listening to this sermon,
                and I thought he said that you can't

                worship God unless you're
                wearing the right clothes.

                You can't worship God properly unless
                you're wearing the right clothes.

                So I took exception to this.

                I was wearing the right clothes,
                but I knew that you can worship God

                in whatever clothes you're
                wearing at the time.

                And so after church, I
                walked up to him and we started arguing.

                And wouldn't you know,
                this is actually kind of embarrassing.

                It's really embarrassing for both of us.

                We stood there and we argued

                in the parking lot until at least 1:30,
                I think it was 2:00 in the afternoon,

                while his wife and children sat
                in the van.

                I ran into somebody who was every bit as
                stubborn as I was. And he was my boss.

                Back and forth, we argued.

                That summer, I went back home to Ohio,

                and I worked for my dad.
                I was driving a truck,

                hauling farm machinery, and I was
                driving. I had hours and hours to think.

                And at some point, somebody said to me,

                "You know, you can either be
                right or you can be happy."

                And it clicked.

                I don't have to argue with this guy.

                Kept processing, went back
                with a different attitude.

                I started seeing the community
                for who they were.

                These were people who actually love God.

                They were doing the best they could.

                They had people from all over the eastern

                United States who had problems with their
                churches that moved out there.

                How do you make a—how do you forge
                a community from 100 different places?

                It was smaller than that,
                but you know what I mean.

                How do you forge such a community?

                It's hard. And I recognized what they
                were doing in that second year.

                My influence in that community was—
                I don't want to brag—

                but it was a lot better.
                When I left after that second year,

                that minister thanked me for what
                I had done in that community.

                Why?

                Because I had demonstrated humility.

                Now, that is not the end of the story.

                I am still working on developing
                humility in myself.

                I still lose influence because of times
                when I am too proud to hear another

                person's point of view, and when I am too
                proud to recognize that I might be wrong.

                But I go back to that story—

                that was a turning point in my life
                with that experience.

                And I have that man to thank.

                I'm so glad he was stubborn,
                even though I hated it at the time.

                So how do we develop humility?

                Three practices in my classroom.

                One is I try to model humility myself.

                I'm not perfect and would hesitate even

                to say that I'm good,
                but I'm at least trying.

                I give my students
                an opportunity to study deeply.

                And third, the third practice I use is

                that when a student brings something
                that they're really sure is a dumb idea,

                I try to ask for the other
                side of the story.

                So one of my—it was actually a former
                student sent me an article about how math

                education is racist because you're looking
                for the right answers, and that's racist.

                And I said, "Okay, what's
                the other side of the story?

                What's going on here?"

                And I actually looked it up and we
                we had a good conversation about it.

                If you ask for the other side
                of the story, if you ask for the student

                to need to defend the point of view
                that they think is dumb, perhaps

                that will help them understand a little
                bit of what it takes to be humble.

                It feels like with this subject that I'm
                just skimming past it really fast.

                There's so much more.

                But I have a vision

                for schools in which wisdom grows in our
                classrooms because our teachers are

                modeling intellectual humility
                and students are mimicking that model.

                I have a vision for classrooms where we
                value truth over ego,

                where we recognize that our creation in—
                that we are created in God's image,

                that we are fallen, and that God is
                working to redeem us to Himself.