Self worth The would you say before and after this is the main thing for women for everybody but for

women especially because it it looks like And I know it's true because it's a spiritual issue Women are born

with low self worth period Not many women have very high self worth from the beginning Maybe they work

on it but not at the beginning So a lot of women suffer from low self worth So how

did it change That's what we mainly do We change self worth inside Huge change I mean I don't

even know where to begin with that other than it's it's similar to what I was mentioning when you see

yourself in situations and you can see how you're handling it You're feeling it how you're thinking it how you're

handling it so different And then you know oh it's because the self worth is very different and your

behavior we've discussed it many times Your behavior is automatic in terms of this is not your

mental thing Oh I should be doing it but I actually am afraid inside or I feel

bad inside or I feel inadequate inside how many times we with other clients as

well People would be afraid to take a test or they take a test and they failed and then after

the session they go and they pass it with flying colors This is just an example of how it changes

inside This is not mental This is not saying oh I can do it I can do it Right No

it's actually a feeling you don't say anything you just behave naturally in a very

different way Correct Exactly And that's how you know that the change is really there It's because you don't

a lot of times I don't even notice it until after the fact and that and

that's a huge part of the work is that we could going back to you know reading

podcast seminars retreats all of that which is all good and fine They have their

place But you don't know if you are really if it's really clicking for real until you feel think

and behave differently And when you do all those things on the mental level there's no way

that you can really feel think and behave differently And then when you're when you've evolved when

you've shifted when you've released and processed you literally just change And then you realize

that or at least in my experience I realize that after the fact I surprised myself I just

feel think and act different and then I look back and I'm like wow ok

I really did change That was my proof And that's that's what counts You're not doing it mentally

That's what counts You see it and then you say oh wow I did change It's

true Right And I'm sure it's the same with you I don't remember if we talk about talked about it

Uh When you came to me obviously you were brave enough again I will repeat to quit your job

to start the business and planning to start the business So obviously you you're young

you still are young but you were younger at that time right You're young you're full

of energy you're smart you're intelligent you have training so you had everything to succeed

So you were not But but the point here I'm making you were not even aware

how low self worth there was inside right So we all because I've I've been like this

the same That's how I started my spiritual journey Oh I was on top of

the world I could take it all on Bring it on right And then you

realize because you're doing the work and you're uncovering stuff inside right More and more

And then you're saying oh my goodness I had a friend or a friend who said

she she's very very again like I described all the confident and everything outgoing and everything And she

told me one day I she said I know deep inside I'm still working on

my self worth But if you come to me and tell me in my face that I

have low self worth I'll punch you in the face We were laughing about it Right Because really I

cannot tell a woman you are you will you have low self worth because she doesn't even realize it

So she thinks she's fine Right Did you start like this too So I mean I did not want to

be punched in the face so I didn't say anything You just I let you uncover it on your own

Yeah Yeah I mean there's there's layers there for sure Yeah you you are not the one aware of

it So in other words when people come to me they're not aware of what's inside Absolutely And

then the work starts and the masks are taken That's what I'm trying to say Yes Yeah Yes

And I remember at the beginning um so I have always you know and anyone listening who's highly sensitive and

very intuitive and um um all of that that will this could resonate where I thought that

I was so aware I thought that I was so in touch with my feelings and I knew what

was aside because I just I've always lived a more of an internal life just by my nature my personality

Um But the difference is when we do this work you really get to the core of it and process

and release it which is way different than just so the way that I I remember it from

the beginning is and I um this is the best way for me to explain it I thought that I

was so aware and in touch with my feelings But really I was only going like here if

you know were to give it like a level But then when we do this work

we go like all the way to the core And so when you're going from here to here you think

oh my gosh I'm feeling all this I'm thinking all this I'm I'm going through all of this I'm

so aware but that's like half of it Not even And then when you really go all

the way then you realize really what's what's to be deeply uh or what's deep and needs to be uncovered

And um it's amazing because yeah you realize there's a lot of a lot of junk in

there You showed the good great visual This is great I'm going to remember this

here and here Yeah But yeah yeah because because this is mindset people people do a

lot of mindset work But mindset is even in the name mind mind mind the mind is already set maybe

they're resetting it but it's all in the mind It's mental We go deep we go very spiritually

deep Yeah Absolutely It's a whole another it's a whole another level Um And because

I thought that all there really was to it was I mean everything to me was like um completely separated

even though I didn't know that it was completely separated I had all this spiritual knowledge and then I'm thinking

ok well I'm an emotional person I feel my feelings because I I always allowed myself to

feel which is very different than people who don't allow themselves Like they don't even know know

what emotion they're living in or even know what it feels like or ever cry or there's people like

that right But I just thought oh I'm fine I know when I'm sad when I'm

angry when I'm fearful I let myself feel it That's not what we're talking about This is the deep work

that I mean I could just go on and on but I'll stop myself and pray on attention No it's

perfect It's perfect You did describe it very well Exactly because and and the main

point I do want you to repeat it because this is so big and it's not coming from me because

of course I know and I say it but it's coming from you as a client right Not not

the mentor as I am spiritual So you said uh you've been in a spiritual world already You've you've

done it you went to retreats you've done all the work that because you were

seeking for answers and you were not even aware that two worlds did not match

for you They did not meet spiritual world was here Let's read about it Let's enjoy it

Let's say light and love Yeah that's great But physical let's hustle here Let's do

physical work with which is they did not mesh mesh They yeah I have like full

like angel buns right now because I vividly remember being in the car thinking this and also speaking to

one of my friends who um helped me to get onto the path which eventually led me to you

Um But this was more of the metaphysical and mental stuff I remember reading about this these spiritual concepts and

this feelings of bliss and and peace and harmony and and all of these things that um a lot of

them were like like books and videos youtube that I would watch and stuff And I remember thinking

like I would have these fleeting moments of feeling this peace that they they talk about and this bliss

that they talk about And I would have these moments And I I just remember saying to my friend

and thinking this in the car like very strongly like I want to have these moments every day I wanna

have these moments for hours I want to have these moments for days upon days And it would

just be these fleeting moments and it was actually pretty sad and and kind of

depressing which was why I so strongly wanted to work with you because I knew

that it was different and I have that now I have hours and days that I just feel that peace

that harmony that bliss that connection that I didn't even know was even possible or where to even source

it from Like I didn't have a relationship with God I didn't have a relationship with the divine I

read about it but I didn't know how to to get there is such a gap between what I knew

cognitively and what I was experiencing in my life And I had no idea how to

bridge that gap And so that's what is so cool about working with you Irina because

we do this deep deep personal work that our soul and we call it live stream but soul for

people listening and relate with that word Um that your soul is like waiting for you to do

waiting for you to get on this path and we do it in the most practical way So it's

like imagine that like you're doing the deepest work in the most practical way Like that's right Pretty

amazing That's right That's right And you just led me straight to my next question

Are you connected with the divine Because that's the main outcome we provide here right In

the spiritual work connection with the divine So before you answer this you already said it

Uh but what was before did you have What kind of feeling you had Was it void Was it emptiness

How did you know that you were disconnected Before you were talking about this gap That was your gap

How did you experience that gap What was it there And I didn't even consciously or I mean in those

in those moments where I was asking like I want to have this feeling for hours or

days I didn't know that Actually that was the connection with God I just wanted that

feeling but I didn't know what I was actually asking for I had no idea

what I was missing what the the connection that was missing in my life I had

I had no clue I I just didn't have a relationship with God I wasn't

it wasn't like I didn't think God existed Like no I believe God is God

existed It just my whole life I didn't have a relationship But if we ask you if somebody would

ask you at that time before you met me do you have relationship with God or do you are

you connected to the divine What would you say at that time at that time I would probably shrug

my shoulders and say oh sure Right And that would be that it's inside it's one thing inside

and you get used to you got used to living like this and because you

read so much uh metaphysical literature and go into so many different places and learning

spiritual stuff Well yeah of course that's all I'm doing Right Right But the truth is

you're not connected at all at all And I thought I didn't know that that was

why I came to work with you I had no idea Like I wanted something completely

different and and it actually surprised me when I was like oh this is what I came for Um in

fact every single person who now I'm more open to spiritual stuff But before I would invite

people to have physical results because you're not aware of spiritual you don't care about spiritual You're already well read

and well traveled right So why would you need spiritual all you need is the money

and the success in business and all the good physical stuff to make you happy right Because

you're not aware that's what you want right During the journey the priorities change the goals change

the purpose in life changes everything changes because awareness changes Exactly Yeah the awareness change and going

back to those years ago than before we started working together and I was in my car saying

I I want to feel the certain way it is that way Uh There's this overall

lens of peace Like when we say rose colored glasses or something there is there's like rose colored

glasses but not in a cliche way Like in a true way over everything even the most difficult

situations are more manageable and they're more meaningful And I have dealt with very difficult situations during the

seven years that we've worked together I had two experiencing two deaths that were very in like among

the closest relationships to me during that time And there's been other things that people you know or

as humans you know we we we consider a great loss Um And having that communication with the divine

having that relationship with God has made situations more manageable even more meaningful because you see the silver lining you

see the spiritual meaning behind why it happened and when it happened and and have a system you have a

yeah and tools to turn it into an opportunity and healing opportunity not just drama Exactly And even

in challenging situations you can still see how you're in the flow and how you're connected

even when it can be chaos happening around you or something unpleasant happening around you

you still have this awareness that you're still right where you're supposed to be because with that communication and

with that with with those the support the support spiritual support Yeah So we talked about the self for

that tremendously increased Faith has tremendously grown right Do you feel free Because every business entrepreneur or

a business woman every entrepreneur woman wants to be free and basically every person every

human wants to be free So would you say you feel free Now I do

I I laugh because before we started working together I had this phrase that myself and a lot of friends

that I at that time would say and we would I think I think this this

came from some somebody else from stage It was like a and it's I wanna do what I want

when I want how I want however I want with whoever I want And that's how we would say

that's being free And when I look back on the journey yeah I that's pretty much how

I live my life So I would say so So would you say you are completely

different person from where you started and where you are now Yeah I'm different but I'm I'm also just I'm

just actually me like I wasn't even really myself then I was like a shell of myself And now I'm

like actually myself In other words you found yourself right You found yourself and you retrieve

yourself you brought her to the surface Yeah And how does it feel amazing The the result also

I'm talking about achieving mastery spiritual mastery over the physical world What what would you say

about it Of course we don't claim to be masters I don't claim to be a master You don't claim

to be a master but mastery to me achieving spiritual mastery over the physical world means to apply

practically which I always this is my mantra right We don't want thesis we don't

theory we want practical application That's how I wanted my life to change in a practical ways And

you mentioned that you wanted the practical ways and you got this here because everything here is spiritual practicality right

And so spiritual mastery means having tools having systems having the knowledge having the expanded consciousness or

change consciousness change the vibration to be a master of the physical world versus the physical world Mastering you because

majority of people are mastered by the physical world Yes Yeah So do you feel like you are

achieving achieved or achieving spiritual mastery of the physical world You live as you're not you're not Well we

know divine is in control but you are in control of the you are domain domain your physical domain

because you know how to handle any situation in life Anything anything that comes to you you

know how to handle because you handling it from the spiritual perspective with the spiritual tools

and everything else 100% I think you said it perfectly right there Just I echo that I don't

even really need to add anything to it which is which is that is how you know you have

spiritual mastery over the physical because you know that you can handle anything that comes

your way I think that's that's it right there Yeah So what would you say to women entrepreneurs

Because I do work with women entrepreneurs business women what would you say to women entrepreneurs who are

listening to this or maybe she would listen to my teachings at some point What

would you say to her Would you encourage or recommend or anything to what would you say

to her to to be on a spiritual journey Oh of course Yeah So going back to what I

was saying um a little bit ago which was you are getting the best of

both something different than you've ever even imagined or experienced which is the deep healing spiritual work and practicality

So there's something that it stuck with me Something you said to me at the very beginning

when we started working together which someone who is a entrepreneur has probably done business trainings has had

mentors And so this can resonate which was you had told me um because we signed up

for the first you know length of time to work together And I'm thinking of it in like the

normal way that I'm trained which is you're gonna go through a process and every week we meet

and there's gonna be new information new material rather than just assuming that that's how it's

gonna go And you and I remember there was one week early on and you had

said well I've already I'm just paraphrasing This is obviously seven years ago Um I already taught

you everything and I'm and I'm like almost mad but also happy like what are you talking about You taught

me everything you're like yeah And I don't remember if this was me thinking this or

if you actually said this because it was years ago But the concept of it's not

working with Irena for six months a year two years however long you decide or whatever or more And then

you're just slowly gonna get these bread bread crumbs of tools and secrets And oh

at the end of this then you'll know everything or or it's not like a normal traditional I guess this

better word program Irena teaches pretty basic practical systems and tools at the very beginning And the work is

us as the mentees doing the work And then you know you guiding us through as the mentor as we

literally peel the onion But it's we always go back to the same stuff It's just different every

time because it's depending on where we are on the journey But it's not like you're slowly giving

us this gradual information And then now we suddenly one day in the future will have the

secret So that's part of what I want to share with entrepreneurs because it's very different than how

we're normally train taught experience with mentors And um even to this day we joke because you'll

ask me a question and you're like you know it's easy I don't ask difficult questions is what

you always say I don't ask difficult questions right Because sometimes you know we um we have so much knowledge

that we think it's harder than it really is or more difficult than it really is

And so um that's that's part of what I want to share and and just be open Um because

this journey is nothing like you've ever heard read or experience So just be open

and um yeah it will change your life So and business right Life and life and business and

on the business side um there's just this deeper level of certainty um when you're going about your business

So just we talked about the money but in general with business decisions with who we work with or

just other day to day practical decisions When you're doing this work you can literally use it

to apply to the day to day And that's of course how you continue to grow But it's

it's very helpful It it provides like I said that level of certainty in those decisions that I my

phrase I always say I know that I know that I know because it's not

coming from here So you spend less time worrying you spend less time second guessing yourself There's this common

phrase that people are saying right now which is that impostor syndrome you don't have impostor

syndrome when you're on a spiritual journey It there's no a posture syndrome doesn't exist because everything is coming

from a deep inside place So it just doesn't exist So um those are some

of the examples of how it's it can really help in the in business Exactly In

Pastor syndrome we don't even know what it is because it's not done It's not even there Yeah

I don't even know if it's gone or not because was it there I don't know I'm sure it's maybe

some time ago but because like I said on the spiritual path it's not there it's gone permanently

The same as fear of not having money Not not making money That's fear that fear is

gone permanently not temporary You don't need to constantly deal with it when it comes up again because it's gone

And I remember when it was gone I remember it was like a line in

the road like this issue is now done Wow Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Amazing Right

Yeah Yeah And if a woman entrepreneur says I don't have the money right now but

there is an opportunity the person is here and hearing us and maybe my teaching your your information and so

forth and she says well I don't have the money or I have the money but

I want to rather keep it And I know you mentioned before But what would you say to that

woman who's on the fence She wants to engage she wants to be embark on the journey but she's scared

What if money never comes And she would spend this money and then no money comes

What would you say to her Yeah Yeah I would say listen to that that desire that pool

because that's that's that's your life stream your soul telling you do it That's the

that's you That's actually the real you calling you is what that is It's the ego

it's the mind that saying all the other stuff That's right So just do it the decision first

and money will follow Right Exactly It will it will work out every single time Um guaranteed because

because it has for everybody it has Yeah And another question I would like to ask uh about psychic

abilities and we don't mean I for some people it's scary Or psychic abilities is

something that terror reader would do or psychic reads things I'm not talking about that because psychic abilities to me

I just use this term to describe our intuition how we because when we connect with the divine we

we use our intuition also we have a system Uh and we're going to talk about it

at another interview but we go we we are using the system the tools to

be really connected and really tuned in and connected to the divine and know the answers

and feel it and sense and receive right So we have direct communication and I know we're

going to do a interview on divine guidance science specifically But I do want to ask you did your psychic

abilities increase Oh yes Exponentially right Exponentially Yes Yes Do you want me to elaborate for showcase

please So the when I first started working with you I didn't I've had psychic abilities my whole life

but I didn't trust them And any time that I would share any of my psychic abilities I

always got a negative response from people Um basically you know I'm weird Whatever They

didn't believe you they didn't believe you What else What kind of response You're weird You should It it's

right It's crazy Right Yeah All that kind of stuff And so when we started working together it

it was like a safe place to actually really talk about my psychic abilities and you provide tools

to help increase those abilities And so you know gradually each time um I began to trust

more and more in my abilities and also express gratitude for them in the moment um

which brought more of them to me and the ability increased as well So the

quality of the psychic abilities and the frequency has increased because um of the tools and

and trusting and and allowing it not blocking it like I was before So it's been really cool

right Growing in faith and doing all the work spiritual work we increase vibration And

when you increase vibration your perception of the spiritual world increases and opens up So basically

what we're working here on we increase our not only connection but actually the whole uh I don't

even know how to say it because we increase we we increase our yeah all of our senses

Yeah our senses and fi five senses are fine in the material world but we have our sixth

sense and maybe the seventh sense because they are the senses for the spiritual work

And that's what we that's what improves and increases ex increases exponentially And we do have

a sele operation here in place for our psychic abilities the psychic moment So we love

those And like I said we don't give readings we do not engage in those things but again we

use them practically Right We use our psychic abilities in practical in a practical way in everyday

life dealing with everyday situation Yes Situation Exactly Right Exactly