The Power of Thought in Regeneration with Dora Kunz 1990
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    I thought today I'm supposed to talk on the power of the mind but I

    think nice to talk about that I want to say something about many people's ideas about

    the we can call them the plains of nature experimental etcetera the usual what people

    talk about it I personally think it is modern day I call them the levels of

    consciousness I think the levels of consciousness is a far better word then plane of the body

    because I think it has to do with our levels of consciousness And also let me

    talk about any of it I think we should think of these levels of consciousness from the

    physical body which is after all representation of what I think is a very basic Theus ah fickle

    concept that each one of us has within him now I'm going to use can I use my my

    new language which I have invented for talking to non theosophy which I really do more than talking to members

    of the Theus optical society We've got all these grades of talking about the ego and

    all these things I call it the inner self in different stages and I think that each one

    of us has this fundamental part within ourselves which is always peaceful quiet and has a wisdom

    I do not think that we that we reach that state all the time But I

    think it comes to us with birth And I think when we talk about the mental

    level it isn't here is the physical here is the etheric mental etcetera etcetera Yeah they are all

    influencing one another It isn't all separate levels of consciousness but levels which after all are constantly working together after

    all the theus optical point of view is can I continue to call it the inner

    self All right with you at Yes the basic part of us and we express ourselves when we express

    ourselves in our feelings It's really scientifically proved that our feelings affect our physical body

    I mean I think that's a scientific fact but I think the emotions which of course and our feelings

    which dominate us to a great extent are again as we know from our experience altered by

    our thinking the thinking and feeling and the different levels Could I call it thinking okay

    and mine there are different levels but these different levels could I call them levels

    of consciousness But could I also call them levels of experience Would that make sense to you We have

    to think about this way as experiences which each one of us has through life Now

    I'm talking about the mind I think before we often think of it as a purely intellectual capacity but

    all of us have experienced a sudden burst of let's say emotion but we then we

    even express it and feel it we think about it and we realized that this is not

    the right way of thinking about it and then you begin to think am I making that clear at

    that moment Your mental energies also mix up with your emotional energy Does that make sense what I'm

    saying and this I think our mental capacities in our daily life have a much greater influence

    upon us Then we realized as you may know my experience has been for many years with people who

    are sick with all sorts of diseases and have had we deal with it in

    many ways that I'm not going to talk about but having seen some at the very painful things

    I mean I think that's not the way the experiences from Children up which people are

    experiencing today Let me explain something when somebody has a very painful experience in childhood but of that is an

    emotional experience But part of it becomes a symbol in what we might call the

    mental part of it So the mental part of it does that make sense If

    you if you want to ask a question I do not care if you interrupt and you're going

    to have plenty of time to ask questions through life We really from in our emotional part office and

    our mental path a pathway of thinking and building a pattern in our mental field and our emotional field

    that you may be only a symbol But when you're on a person has a similar

    experience they very often automatically fall in that pattern instead of being able like the theosophy ist

    I hope think of being quiet and realize that we wish to break the pattern It's a very difficult

    thing to do but a lot of people are conditioned that way except this are emotional and the

    mental cable the mental part of it which is the memory and the thinking affect our lives a great deal

    now What is the strength first of all I think for us members of the theus optical society

    and to me all my life I was brought up in the office I must say I've been probably

    a longer a member of the society than anyone here because I've been so young a

    member It is this basic assumption that we have and that part of us is this

    inner self in which we can have quiet And as I say I've had an extraordinary crazy upbringing

    but My mother got me to meditate at the age of five and thus that idea of being quiet

    and thinking of it has affected me all my life But I think in our turbulence in a

    very turbulent and stressful times I think if we can think it's just I teach hundreds of nurses hundreds

    of people it is effective It is the thinking not only the thinking of experiencing

    with the emotions but we also have part of that which studies and try through our meditation and all these

    things to understand something about you might say this other part of ourselves and I think the flesh is

    of intuition which everybody gets ah flashes from a different level through the metal and we get it instantly

    and get the sudden insight of what is right I think everybody has had flashes of institutions

    and I think it comes from that level of consciousness I think the mind has a powerful effect

    upon us I deal of course with people we have had a very tough time in life and I

    have found what one of the most helpful things it to have a person in their mind

    visualize visualization and that is a fact and the work of the mental level is

    a very valuable asset Then they are conscious of our difficulties you might say about our difficult habits because

    If one is aware of it this is my suggestion If you become aware of

    it now let me say this for myself I have a symbol The one thing I

    love dearly is trees That's my personal symbol A three stands for me as a

    symbol of strength It's it's affected all the time by whether it follows follows its innate pattern not

    the tree should be And to me it always has been a symbol of strength

    and beauty Yeah This if I want if I'm aware of it and this is what I

    tell a lot of people of something which I have experienced which is not pleasant to become aware of

    it to say you've done something I think is it makes one ashamed and one

    does it again But if I'm visualized now I'm talking about the tree You can pick

    any symbol in the world you like But I have to talk in terms of my

    own experience Isn't that true If one thinks and here comes to mind the visualization three makes

    an effort doesn't it It's using an energy It is not just thinking Phegley it's

    a concrete use of the energy energy and the focusing of the mind on a tree as a symbol let's

    say of peace makes for an at the time when one is disturbed not behaving properly Makes

    one realise mentally and it brings in this other energy which affect our feelings Is that clear

    what I've said If you don't hold up your hand and I think this is a much more effective way

    then all the time saying I'm sorry I've done this and not have the whatever habit you've got But

    I think it makes one aware also And I have many many ways Official Ization which

    I deal with people to get You have no many people suffer from something which I call the resentment They

    are angry because of their past experiences And I think resentment even carries it out Even if one is

    completely unaware of that resentment is a block to really spiritual understanding because you're not

    aware of what you are feeling yourself And of course in today's society that is very common to

    pick up And I think if I'm give us a person I'm not going to go in all the

    details of a mental concept what they can do every day a visualization it is

    quite possible to get over this resentment because when one makes a mental picture and has the desire to

    change this is the important thing Of course that one really has the desire to change Let me say this

    If one has the desire to change I think it's I said that there are all these

    feelings in a mental higher mental level of unity of really understanding but it also is

    a gateway two to A level Everyone is conscious of the unity of all things in the universe

    and that's part of the consciousness of the inner self Does that make sense again Yes Thus the I

    think if I can use um the mental field of the mental part of ourselves and realized that

    they have a disability do we have pictures That they help us really much more clearly than just feeling that

    only we often feel something over and over again and just feel it for 20 years Don't you

    think that is true If you bring this other element of understanding and the visualization as I

    say ideal with people who go through terrible circumstances it has been helpful and another thing we talk a

    lot about it but we take our emotions I don't think that many people realize

    when they feel anger Love Love was anger That one is projecting an energy not

    only to the person once feels it too but you're projecting that in the atmosphere I don't think

    that we realized that we I think oh I think you believe what I say but I don't think

    you realize the strength of it I deal with a lot of child abuse myself and

    it isn't only technically it's only physical but I think but parents and child abuse is only

    part of me or consistently say that child is no good I was going to swear but I wasn't

    I didn't at at have just asset have also what they don't realize is I'm

    not going to talk about that too much that some Children are very sensitive and an emotional feeling

    of dislike whatever you like to call they get that energy and some people can reject

    that They're different temperaments But some Children take it in am I making it and cannot

    reject it and therefore can affect them for quite a bit in their life And

    I think the members of the society even aren't aware of the power of this projection of our

    feelings But I don't think that they they realize also that in a different degree what we

    think what we think of a person and for instance in many meditation groups they're sending out thoughts

    of peace aren't they Whatever it is however you do if you're really I think and

    feel that you cannot let me say this The charlie can I can I tell you what

    I have taught my nurses that before they can even do this technique They first of

    all I remember that very few of my members of the society but they do practice this that

    then we feel something Can I use my hands We take in and relate to

    one another by taking in one another's feelings which you agree with that So what I teach

    my nurses is if they want to do project this they do not have to

    take in but they should let the raw their consciousness within their heart that we called centering and feel first

    at peace and then project the feeling of peace and whatever the healing energy is

    towards the patient am I making that clear it Therefore you can't do this doing this There's

    nothing am I making that clear It's no use only being the instrument of your

    feelings When you come to talking about healing you have to be at peace otherwise you will not project

    it Does that make sense And I think thinking like this has really changed In the 18

    years since we started many of the nurses have changed very very fundamentally and they have embraced the historical

    ideas in their life and that is the most important things Now I think the I've talked

    about the at the mental part of us being between our emotions and also almost between the spiritual

    nature of the way you call it the buddha whatever you call it let's let's make it simpler Isn't that

    true That part of ourselves which is closer to the inner self and the understanding I think

    is important in the theological literature Nor can I say something not nice I think we use

    a lot of terms but I don't think that the terms are clear enough to affect our lives I

    mean this one fact which is obvious by what we feel That's not what we say

    Only it is what we feel We are projecting an energy towards a group projecting

    an energy towards a person but also in a subtle way What we think if you see a person

    for instance come in and say it's not very nice You're also protecting both an emotional and a mental ah

    energy Does that make sense So you have a right to say somebody isn't pleasant But I

    think if you could be aware and just say it this doesn't seem such a pleasant but not

    have this sense of rejection Does that make sense I really believe that members do not understand their powers

    for the powers of thought and feeling are and how they can affect our lives and the mental path

    The thinking clearly is an important part Let me say this I'm a very tough girl to my

    nurses because yeah so many people are good hearted and what they want to do it's almost hug a person

    physically and center hugging emotion Does that make sense I say that's not their business That

    business is first of all to center snapped korean And when we approach a patient it is peace they need

    and it's a center of peace to reduce their anxiety etcetera etcetera Before you can really they

    can accept any healing Does that make sense The disciplining of oneself away from wanting

    to hug people who do not appreciate it I mean if they are very sick I mean I'm talking about

    the very sick ones I'm not talking about everyone here Yeah Ah I think all this requires

    a discipline but I think it changes one's life Everyone can feel and think I think one should realize a

    study how are thinking how our mind affect us I think it's fun to think You don't think

    so I mean to discuss even very difficult metaphysical questions to discuss it not only to accept

    it uh is stretching the mind to submit that other part of our mind which we

    don't use so much It's not the emotional part but really enlarging the scope of the energy of our

    own minds The mind please a very powerful and has a powerful effect on how we behave

    how remember remember and also the mind controls their emotions to some extent If we make up our mind that

    we are going to change and that we are going to be a person who doesn't take in with

    who gives does that make sense Following her talk Dora responded to questions from the audience The first question came

    from a person wishing to know how one can work through anger and resentment I

    suppose anger is you can feel it's for the moment But I suppose in my

    language resentment is then you can maybe have an undercurrent towards that memory and you

    really have an undercurrent of distinct dislike when you think of a person Does that does that mean

    anything you may irritate me and I get angry Isn't that true or you can say But the anger the

    sentence in my language is something you carry through for years and years Then you think of a person

    or an event It may have hurt you You know what these people who have suffered this when they

    were Children often have built a pattern within them And they don't realize that they're

    pattern which was begun very early in life Does that make sense If you can remember in other words the

    event which has made you feel that resentment shall I use the word resentment then I think if

    you first of all you want me to say what I say to the people in in in the

    garden or resentment do you want me to do that I think if you feel

    that resentment what I'm suggesting to people is first of all to say if it happens when you're a child

    I'm grown up um I'm a different person then center as much as we can talk I say

    put your consciousness and feel that also you have each one of us has that ability to feel

    quiet and peaceful to them To project the image of the person They have that

    resentment make a picture and instead of feeling love feel good will to that person whatever they are doing

    But thinking of that person in the distance helps to break the pattern Does that make sense

    what I'm saying You're not you're breaking the idea that it affected and it really

    does work But it takes a determination to do it Yes How does one prevent anger from turning into resentment

    Well I think if it's it's different from across and a person because in a person it's very personal and

    it's something between two people In the course we are living in the world where there is

    a tremendous lot of misery and the causes are fairly well known it is no use feeling anger try

    to substitute for that What you can do positively to help in any way for a world

    or something situation isn't that So when it is with regard to a person I think the

    difficulty is that we have a memory of a lot of resentment interchange your feelings when they could be

    put it that way I think the centering is really one of the basic things is to

    center and if one is centered and is therefore if you can center you have self confidence

    does that make sense If you are not said that many many people have no

    self confidence or very little you can think of that person because you were strong and then you want to

    get anger I think if you like project deliberately and sent the color of peace I'm not just saying anything

    if you ever help to visualize something yellow for us towards them So you are

    reacting positively and you're not taking in Does that make sense And as a matter of fact if

    you do that it affects the other person because if they don't have this interchange affected any

    other questions How does one teach a young child to meditate And that's a tough thing

    because I I was brought up very differently for most people Um I think if you could sit

    with the child just let us sit peacefully and quietly for three minutes or four minutes

    and sit quietly and say let us both be happy and love one another or something like that See what

    I mean If a child is young I was brought up in a very peculiar fashion So

    uh so it's easier but in every household it is that if you get angry

    with the child then if you could after that if you have had it for

    a few minutes left to sit together and meditate for a few minutes does that make sense Or use

    any other word you like Would that be possible I think that would be helpful

    I think used to be quiet and sent out say both of you sent out loving thoughts to one other

    Would would that be a way of doing it Any other questions you said that the terms we use are

    not clear enough to make a difference in our lives Can you give us some examples

    of what you mean Well I tell you we have a lot of Sanskrit words

    I'm not against the Sanskrit language of course it's the most wonderful language in the world but we

    are in the United States And sometimes even if you use the word admin what

    does it mean to most people I mean I was brought up on buddhism when

    I was and Hinduism as I was a member of as as I was brought

    up as a theatrics very early and I got quite used to it with a lot of words I don't

    mean much to an other If he could say what it is and say this is

    a word used all over the world But the meaning is something else in uh an ordinary

    american literature Would you I don't know why I picked on that Does that make

    sense Or would you not agree with me I mean there are many many words

    like that and I think it would have it would have a better meaning to us

    And as you say now I'm using the inner self is just no meaning But

    I but also admin egg Oh all this There are psychological terms in it doesn't mean

    to my audience who are not theosophy is does that make sense I have to use words

    which will affect and have meaning to my audience of non theosophy fist Isn't that true So

    I'm always searching but just think about it What does the word mean if you're talking in a public audience

    if you're after all used to talking to theosophy is that's fine Isn't that So they

    know the meaning of words But if you want to attract the public and bring them in and in

    my healing work they're not theosophy All right thank you very much