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    OK Welcome to battle class perspective Today is looking at God's presence Um The angle we're coming at is individually

    learning to see signs of who's going to grow and who's not going to grow also because we

    don't want to waste our time because basically if God is building his army then

    he wants his army to follow him and have the same mind as him Yeah So he will have his

    people who are leaders and he will say to them boom I want you to think like this so

    that you can help those to think like this There is there is I want an army

    to be cohesive I want them to move together I think together act together had the

    same kind of mind And we know by looking at scriptures you have examples of David's army no

    Saul's army and Goliath you saw the state of their mind based on their king their

    their leader Yeah As the leader thought they thought it was one and the same David comes along and he

    is not thinking remotely anything that they're thinking Yeah So it's like you come to

    a place and you think hey this is church Why is everybody thinking so stupid And

    then you think should I think stupid too and they bully you Yeah So his brothers

    bullied him tried to intimidate him and even said to him Not only do we want you to

    think the same but we want you to go home and think the same Yeah So we need to

    recognize that if that happens to us because we are called Now imagine if David

    gave into that listen to the the curse of the Philistines They said if we win you will be our

    slaves forever Yeah What's the impact of that Now Messiah that the Israelites would have been integrated into the

    Philistine genome then that'd be that Oh yeah So God sent one boy he was young Oh he's

    just young He's obviously he's nobody you know Um But this boy had a testimony Hm

    And his testimony was when I fight God is with me we have never lost we

    have never lost and he defeated the champion the stronghold the strong man the the problem of Israel he defeated

    and killed destroyed the problem of Israel And the moment Israel saw the problem their

    faith was restored and they fought and they won and they chased down and they killed Yeah all these things

    are epic These are these are very important elements Um Two OK not being intimidated if David did not

    step forward did not ignore if he just said Yes King you are right old King You have more experience

    you have if he bowed then things would have changed So here's us being given a message given a

    testimony and standing in our testimony standing in what we know and going forward and saying no I

    don't need your stuff I can manage and going out and finding what he knows

    is this is this is how I can fight goes out fire free stunts who are sort of getting free

    stunts or even five stones according to scripture Yeah everybody is thinking about what this guy's sword

    is big and this guy is thinking sword stun faster Yeah Deep Yeah Yeah I said I'm

    not going to get punched by this bloke distance Yeah I remember my training Yeah distance is good Keep

    out of his reach Boom End of story That was like a two second fight Yeah So stay stay in

    your testimony Stay in what you know So when you're training other people and you realize that they're drifting

    you bring them back What's your testimony What is God saying to you Keep them there Yeah Everybody in

    the ST will have their own ministry Um And this and our fellowship will keep

    us connected so that we can continue knowing We have a base regardless of what we do regardless of

    what's going on And we're encouraging each other to keep going forward in our individual ministries and

    purposes that God reveals to us But the key is we're keeping each other in our individual ministries and

    purposes We are not making clones We are trying to draw out and see with excitement

    What is in the sky that God has put his anointing on him Mhm So before Jesus ascended one

    of the things he said that was the key for outgoing food is about his presence Can you remember the

    scripture about his presence Low I will be with you Mhm Yeah I will be with you that sometimes it's

    not a big focus in church um about God's presence It's more of a ritual We call down

    the presents and we do all this funny stuff not recognizing They didn't tell us

    to do that There is no invocation of the presence of God It's quite funny really

    When you think about how dumb we are there is no scripture that says OK on

    Sundays you must call down my presence There is no even verses to tell you There is not even

    a verse that tells you you must call that my presence Yeah Look at that Look at

    who is it Sul and Akron in it The witch of Endor with calling up Samuel Ha Anyway so

    before I Yeah so here we are recognizing Jesus says lo I will be with you That's the thought in

    itself What was David's testimony when he was his sort He said the same thing God is with

    me There was no invocation There wasn't no big prayer meeting when he got out on the

    field before Goliath It was just David's statement is actually quite amazing The first thing he goes is when

    he sees Goliath is what's that What's that Who is this uncircumcised Feer So the guy went

    private right there Is this uncircumcised Feer private deep It went right below the belt Look at that uncircumcised

    Did you see that Did that be uncircumcised I was just thinking to myself this

    guy's a joker First thing he puts out is is bits So anyway and then

    afterwards he's on the field and Goliath says this and they have this bit of tit

    tat on on the field You know I'm gonna do this No actually I'm gonna do this

    you know And in the end the one who was from God what he said came to be exactly as

    he said it because he was sent I was saying to I was just sharing yesterday

    that being sent is a big deal When people say to you you must submit to our authority

    You have to reply like this This is what the Lord spoke to me about Did you

    send me Yeah if they did not send you they have no authority over you Only one sends

    you he sends you He's the one the one who sends you is obviously the one

    who has authority over you Yeah nobody else does Can they can they they can live It

    means that it doesn't mean anything which is very upsetting in itself I think OK

    so yeah they can say what they're like but it's not that's not the issue the

    issue is that you know look at David's testimony I I don't know why David is

    such a perfect example But he is I I of all the examples I have to use

    I always come back to David because he gives a whole this is what happened And he

    tells you his life in his testimony to tell to say to the to the the captain

    of the army This is why I think I can kill him you know and this

    is this is all I've got I can kill this uncircumcised Philistine who defies the armies

    of the living God I can do it I can do it And so must have thought I see in

    Him he he there is no kind of I might And he's this guy has gone

    clear from looking at it physically into spiritually He defies the armies of the living God

    So this guy is looking body soul and spirit I'm here to deal with this guy I

    saw myself thought wow this guy is not just saying you know he's gone right through

    the whole three Yeah So this is where we begin recognizing the first fundamental God's presence So as we recognize

    it in our life as we grow in this revelation we'll begin to recognize it in other people's lives Now

    there is an element of when you recognizing the presence of God pre just you know

    this is what we're opening ourselves to Holy Spirit help us to recognize your presence without

    any invocation your Lord right now You're good right now So we're just gonna look

    at a few verses to show you how the presence is 24 7 in time and

    outside of time So these are just reminders So we go back to Genesis in

    Genesis chapter one it says that the spirit of God did what over the waters there So the

    spirit of God was hovering So they didn't say he wasn't there So right now the

    scripture says concerning God I am the Lord and I change not So God right now is hovering

    That's what that's what scripture says of Him The scripture says that God spoke to Adam Yeah So people

    say oh they don't hear God and but the scripture shows you concerning Adam God speaks to man

    It doesn't show you there's a barrier it doesn't show you there's a condition and every single scripture practically

    in the Bible is that God wants to have a fellowship with us It was in the beginning

    Jesus turns up and he says I am bringing you into this fellowship I'm restoring

    this fellowship and it cannot exist without communication So God is speaking to us and it's been aware of

    He's speaking to us It's not ok Lord I'm gonna wind you up so you can speak to me

    It's been silence So as you can hear him get rid of the distractions Yeah So we have this

    going back to the hovering There are things that need to be I suppose created in our lives So the

    Holy Spirit is hovering over those things So the word that we apply when God says light be light

    is so all the things that God wanted for the world or for us right now it's like we

    know that we've been blessed So those things exist it's impossible for them not to exist if we've

    been blessed that means we're being empowered to prosper to do the things he's called us

    to do If we are being cursed that means we are being disempowered Yeah Not to

    be able to succeed in the things before us That's the curse You have no power

    to do the things that you should be able to do So if God said to you

    I want you to water the garden You be nobbled Is it nobbled Is that old

    expression Nobbled It's like it's like something happened to your knees so that you can't walk or you know you

    can't really do the things you're supposed to do Um But that's not the scripture

    says it says that we have been blessed and that's important for us to recognize that we have been blessed

    His presence is the guarantee of that So what we're looking at for us here is because God said

    I will never leave you or forsake you And you know in one translation I think the amplified has it

    in Hebrews 13 5 and it goes on and says I will not I will not I will not

    in any way forsake you I will not it's actually quite extraordinary the way it just emphasizes I

    will not you know but we want to get to a place where we trust the Lord in such a

    way that we realize when he says I am with you we understand simply he is

    with us Now what we want to discern is what does that mean So he says

    so we know that he hovers he's creative he speaks over us and things are being created for us

    He's um this um ok when it comes to the enemy there's a story in um one king's four and

    it talks about God's presence being attacked So the Ark is attacked and it's taken by

    the Philistines This is important for you to understand that if you carry the presence you can be attacked

    Somebody wants to doesn't want this in your life So but here is the here is

    the thing I was reading the story and I was just thinking the Philistines came they attacked the

    Israelites Yeah killed over 4000 of these guys and took the Ark from Akron to Ashdod I think

    it is And then after seven months or somewhere around about there they set it up

    in the temple Yeah The whole story comes to an abrupt end in a in a funny

    way because basically a plague breaks up and they'll end up with hemorrhoids and it's just

    recorded that they have hemorrhoids and it's just like God is the joker I mean he

    could have wiped them out right there And then yeah so they end up with hemorrhoids

    and they end up they they also put the ark in their temple next to their

    gods and they come the next day and they find one day the head is missing the arm is missing

    and all this And I think the next and everything this thing is cut to pieces on the

    floor and it's not Israelites inside So they're like it's the ark Do you know what I mean

    So here you have the presence of God in the camp of the enemy and he

    has only one mission to wipe him out If you think about it They knew

    this this hemorrhoids was God laughing before he killed a lot of them They they knew we got to

    get rid of this because we ain't gonna survive another year another seven months for this year because

    now that he's destroyed our gods publicly we know the direction of things Yeah we

    are next So what did they do They sent the ark back and they and they they

    tried to work out is it really the ark Is it not the ark And they said well if

    it goes this way then we know it's it was just a fluke and we can get it back

    But if he goes this way straight back to Israel then we know ok we

    just dodged a big bullet A big big bullet Yeah But what's my focus My focus is

    in the presence is not sitting there doing nothing The presence is active right now And

    in Hebrews it talks about the spirit of God the word of God cut in asunder dividing soul

    from spirit bone and marrow And here you have one example of this cut asunder the gods

    of um of the Philistines They got the fish God was cut to pieces you know and it was like

    how do you cut So this was interesting then you come back down to um uh things like God is

    in the garden the sin has been committed God says to Adam you know I'm interesting

    He says where are you Yeah So we know that God questions sends out a question and he expects

    a response Yeah So here's this this is interesting So we're in a situation God is speaking He's expecting a

    response Adam responds to no Adam responds by saying by blaming the missus as you do you know And uh

    God responds back So this is here we see taking every full captive Sometimes we have the impression

    that uh you know God takes time to sort things out and and and things

    like that Yeah But here is God telling us here in battle class there are there are those moments where

    it seems like we just things are operating in time But now we need to be conscious of

    how the spirit works And right now the spirit right now is taking every full captive speaking

    to and questioning what is before you because this is how he wants you to do it

    He wants you to you're in a situation He says question it take it captive because this

    is what I'm doing Move with me no more long things I'm gonna put a thought in your head

    concerning your situation You question it too and then you conclude like I do and then you bring judgment

    the conclusion Adam where are you I was hiding OK Did you eat from the

    tree Hm Yeah So he's in that situation Yeah And um because you have done this

    boom boom boom boom boom boom boom didn't leave it There's no gaps there's not RC in

    it tomorrow we'll have a chat You know I come every day about this time

    now there and then this is the word that's present right now The word that's

    present is questioning So if you have a question and you turn around and say well

    is that God's question let me tune in to this is God's question in my head and hearing God's

    judgment concerning this and then you speaking on that and acting on that So after he

    spoke and he released a judgment he says two men Now this is going into

    effect for it to go into effect You have to get out the garden because it can't happen in

    the garden So give some direction So God speaks to you direction He tells you what to do next

    So you go out and then a prophecy can come to be Yeah So this is what we're being sensitive

    to God is speaking God is judging God is showing us where to do where He's

    He's prophesying and we are going to be part of that prophecy not from this place from a

    new place So we've moved into a new place after we've heard these words spoken

    So here we have got prophecy So this is what we're listening to is God prophesy to

    us Hebrews 412 says God's word is described as quick powerful divide and soul and

    spirit This is interesting Is he doing that right now Yes he is Are we aware of that

    right now No because what we do is we do it in an event mentality but he is

    doing this all the time divide So from spirit So sometimes we worry about certain things and forget

    He is just divided Yeah he just divided soul and spirit And so we're now we're we're getting

    sensitive to that and then it's like we're going to move on this the vision that's

    taking place the separation from one thing into another and and releasing something else And we

    are partaking of what he's doing rather than just sitting back and la da da da and waiting Hm South

    Here's a meditation In fact the whole thing is a meditation when I was listening to this

    and and when this is you know there is this element of how do we do

    then how do I communicate all that so that people get that sense of it And it is

    he says just speak it And what you're saying is what I'm going to do because they want this they

    don't fully understand what it is is in it They know kind of what he wants

    to bring But he says once they hear it this is what I'm going to manifest This is

    what's going to start to take place So we just spend a moment just saying you know it's

    not complicated stuff No long prayer thing Just yes Lord I want to live this life

    I've been sensitive to your presence wherever I go I want to be somebody who knows your presence knows

    what's happening and knowing how to move and how to be And personally I think it's bordering on a

    life and death thing This is not he's not saying there's no testing here You're saying you know I only

    have one life for you guys to live Yeah And it's a good life and this life comes from

    the spirit doesn't come from the flesh So what we're talking about here is spirit and it's not

    and there isn't another spirit It's just this this is the truth This is what I'm bringing to you

    This is this is the this is the spirit that's here the spirit of truth And so you're grabbing

    hold of this and connecting with the spirit of truth And you saying OK spirit of truth help

    me to be you know he help me to resee everything that I see and

    act according to the truth that you are present you are with me That condemnation

    is not a question Yeah even though I struggle with it it's not a question What

    is is your presence and your presence is bigger than my feelings bigger than the word of

    man bigger than the the the condemnation from the world which is condemned Imagine 98% of the time

    we've actually been picking up the world's condemnation because the world is condemned That's what

    the scripture says and we need And now the Lord wants us to be sensitive to his

    I don't want to use the word affirmations but here's truth concerning us and concerning him that he

    right now is fully here I heard a man say something today and I was first of

    all I had to rewind him because he was Catholic And I just want I just wanted

    to make sure I heard what I heard I knew what I heard was what I heard but

    I just wanted to make sure I heard what I heard because I heard him say it before but

    I didn't focus too much on it and he said you know he wants the whole

    world to know that Jesus is fully fully in the Eucharist So I was like maybe it doesn't maybe it

    doesn't mean that But then when you know about the Catholic doctrine and you know

    that they believe that trans substation is Jesus being fully in it And also we know

    it as cannibalism basically Yeah So when he was emphasizing that Jesus is this was the whole focus

    of Jesus being fully embodied fully in the Eucharist And he used the word fully not kind of

    you know Jesus symbolizes it symbolizes Jesus No this is I got Jesus down here and

    I made him into a piece of bread or a piece of wafer this big Do

    you know what I mean There he goes When we're walking around with this there's Jesus being held

    up by men walking around the church Give me a break Yeah So they're saying that's Jesus that they

    carry around the church And Jesus is saying nah that's not me baby you know and it's and

    this is the thing you have the false presence the false understanding of of people thinking they can

    handle him and touch him like the guys with the arc they felt you know in the whole story

    with the with the um one Samu four and the Israelites losing the Ark to the Philistines It always

    puzzled me why did they lose 4000 people And it was very interesting when I really looked at

    it I discovered they were using the ark as a talisman What was interesting is these

    little scumbags Sorry the Israelites they actually attacked the Philistines first and the fest times beat their ass And they

    were like very interesting what the what the Israelites said when they went back to the elders they said

    why did God be us They didn't say why did the Philistines be Why did God

    beat us with the Philistine Bible And then they said something which was even weirder

    without even skipping a beep Let's go get the ark They didn't even ask God let's go get

    the arc and then they got beat again So I was just like why So didn't

    even you know you just thought the arc was just a trinket but this is supposed

    to symbolize the covenant with God his presence with his people that was not in their

    head at all So here we have how they saw the presence was completely wrong and they treated the

    presence accordingly He was just a kind of get quick fix sort this problem out things Sort

    of not recognizing This is a big being right here We're not playing with a toy

    here just to get what we want This is you know he get the spirit here and we

    can go to toys R us you know what I mean And we can have our fun there

    This is this is not that this is us recognizing who's present who we are following He's not following us

    we are following him We are working with him we're acting with him He is the

    Lord God and he is present right now and we want to be sensitive to him and his purposes But

    we need to stop and do that and take that time and say Lord reteach me how to walk

    this way I'm going to meet people You know you showed me that everybody on the planet

    that doesn't know you is in danger Why do you shan't be there unless you want to do

    something Yeah you have a care This is why you show me they're in danger I could have seen

    that they were ok But now you showed me they are in danger and and our

    normal reaction is if someone's in danger we want to help if we can you know but the fact that

    you show they're in danger not just uh there's another one going to hell and there is no sense of

    danger There is no sense of urgency There's no sense of you know if you

    showed me that then ok that's cool Just loads of people going end of story

    you know but you show me no they're in danger So you're also pointing out these people have a purpose

    and they don't see it They're blind they need light they need help and I'm sending you to

    engage Yeah but if we need to know his presence is already present to help we

    are not going to bring that We are not going to pray that down We're not going to go

    into Let's fast and pray that God will come down and save people When I hear that

    I remember the first time I heard that and it dawned on me you know we've

    been doing this for years Lord come and save them That what are you saying You got the

    cross right here the showing us He did But it's like we just forgotten how much he cared for these

    people and we tell him come and save them Did he pray come and stir

    me up So I will feel when it's not talking about Zeus or any of these

    Greek mythological beings we're talking about Yahweh we're talking about Him putting it in us and saying hey you know

    Israel originally in the Old Testament was supposed to be the light to the nations of the salvation of

    God Would it be that the gosh I won't call them Gods the fallen angels disguised as demigods of gods

    people And to believe in that the way that people worship them is how we should worship God in that

    sense It can do But here's the problem because God holds every person accountable That means they knew in

    like in some of those religions Actually most of them they were told one thing

    one very interesting thing they were told The God of heaven is not interested in you So follow

    us this is what the fallen was saying So they acknowledged the God of Heaven and they said oh he's

    not interested So your problem is well how do I know he's not interested Let

    me go find that for myself That's your part to play And this is where

    you become accountable and responsible for that action doesn't matter what these fallen scumbags are saying Your

    part is let me find out because he was there before them You know they're acting like

    they were there from the very beginning and God never was And people are picking up just

    that bit of the history If you go back you find that actually it was there before

    them You know these these these you know and it's like get a grip Adam

    was the first in terms of how we are as men today So all men

    are conscious of good building a tower of Babel was all about God We're going to build this so

    that we can kill God It it wasn't so we can build this so that we

    can just live on top of each other Do you know this was so that we

    can kill God And we're gonna make we're gonna make it waterproof so that if he brings another flood

    we have an upper hand we're gonna we we can we can weather the storm until we get there

    We kill all the angels and kill God right All right Oh let's fire some arrows Oh Look he's bleeding

    he's bleeding We are talking this is how to save people a lot You know what I

    mean You hear the story you go how does this work mentally Do you know

    what I mean What drugs are they taking on the way up there But yeah so we are here to

    acknowledge and take responsibility of the fact that God is present with us and he wants us to respond to

    his presence Now like if you're like me you realize ok you take a deep breath don't panic

    You know just be still let the stillness come to you So you can begin to I

    suppose relearn how to see Him this way and begin to move in this way So

    I feel this is where we you know he wants us to just acknowledge this

    message in in that sense to start acknowledging him in a fresh way how he's going to reveal to

    us So we move in strength and his full strength you know he said to

    me yesterday that buddy is my Yeah And I was like and I just felt hm what does that

    mean You know and I knew that it was like he really as he spoke to

    me a few days ago wants to change the reality You know he wants to change people's

    reality He doesn't want people just to be healed He wants to change them so completely to go

    past that past the healing So there was a life that he wanted us to

    to walk in that we have not seen before because we because we like things the same

    just a bit patched up He said no more patchwork I want to go further

    than that and we'll meet people who don't and we recognize ok you don't But I do

    So I'm going to go further than that Ok we'll stop there because that is um how

    long how long is that Is that 37